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	<title>Comments on: The Downfall of Geo Modifiers</title>
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		<title>By: Local Search News Podcast - Episode 1&#160;&#124;&#160;Local Search News</title>
		<link>http://www.localsearchnews.net/the-downfall-of-geo-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Local Search News Podcast - Episode 1&#160;&#124;&#160;Local Search News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google Onebox Change Google no longer requires a geographic modifier inserted into the a users search for some broad phrases and will show a Onebox result based on the users location when the search is conducted. We had noticed an up tick in referrals from Google with no geographic modifiers and wrote an article on it here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google Onebox Change Google no longer requires a geographic modifier inserted into the a users search for some broad phrases and will show a Onebox result based on the users location when the search is conducted. We had noticed an up tick in referrals from Google with no geographic modifiers and wrote an article on it here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gab Goldenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.localsearchnews.net/the-downfall-of-geo-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Gab Goldenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How this did not go hot I have NO idea. OK, maybe a little: 
The article first seems like it wants to be remarkable by pointing out Google's serving local results. Yawn, boring. But then you get into your data and prove it, which is awesome. Things is, the data's way down. Bit of a shame, but better luck next time. Also, let me submit it, as my avatar is slightly better known and I have the connections to get some quick votes to draw attention and have a shot at frntpaging sphinn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How this did not go hot I have NO idea. OK, maybe a little:<br />
The article first seems like it wants to be remarkable by pointing out Google&#8217;s serving local results. Yawn, boring. But then you get into your data and prove it, which is awesome. Things is, the data&#8217;s way down. Bit of a shame, but better luck next time. Also, let me submit it, as my avatar is slightly better known and I have the connections to get some quick votes to draw attention and have a shot at frntpaging sphinn.</p>
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		<title>By: MiriamEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiriamEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
What a great article. Thank you for sharing your research with us.

I am puzzled by the idea that user searching for 'orlando pizza' could be seen as having equal intent as a user searching for 'pizza'. I would assume that a user searching for 'pizza' might well be looking for a local pizza, but they might also be looking for pizza recipes, diet information about pizza or what have you. Does it not strike you, Steve, that the simplicity of a search like that makes the intent more vague?

Miriam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
What a great article. Thank you for sharing your research with us.</p>
<p>I am puzzled by the idea that user searching for &#8216;orlando pizza&#8217; could be seen as having equal intent as a user searching for &#8216;pizza&#8217;. I would assume that a user searching for &#8216;pizza&#8217; might well be looking for a local pizza, but they might also be looking for pizza recipes, diet information about pizza or what have you. Does it not strike you, Steve, that the simplicity of a search like that makes the intent more vague?</p>
<p>Miriam</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Shotland</title>
		<link>http://www.localsearchnews.net/the-downfall-of-geo-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Shotland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another big question here is what is the effect of increased Onebox traffic on pages that target geo-modified queries?  Based on the data I am seeing it appears that there is a dual effect happening:

1. The Onebox results are growing their share of clicks from the SERPs pages on which they appear

2. The amount of local search traffic is growing dramatically per the above analysis and other factors, so the pages that appear below the Onebox results can still grow click volume even if their total share of clicks is declining</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another big question here is what is the effect of increased Onebox traffic on pages that target geo-modified queries?  Based on the data I am seeing it appears that there is a dual effect happening:</p>
<p>1. The Onebox results are growing their share of clicks from the SERPs pages on which they appear</p>
<p>2. The amount of local search traffic is growing dramatically per the above analysis and other factors, so the pages that appear below the Onebox results can still grow click volume even if their total share of clicks is declining</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Espinosa</title>
		<link>http://www.localsearchnews.net/the-downfall-of-geo-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Espinosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Josh

I completely agree with your point that geo modifiers will not go away easily, I don't think they will go away at all as a matter of fact. 

What I do disagree with is that users who search for "Orlando pizza" have less intent than someone who searches "pizza".  Just because the user didn't enter a geo modifier doesn't mean they wouldn't like local results. We can't expect users to adapt to the search engine the search engine (and our marketing) must adapt to them. 

I would prefer if Google would just start using browser awareness and simply including the Onebox and keeping the natural results as a default for search terms like "pizza".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Josh</p>
<p>I completely agree with your point that geo modifiers will not go away easily, I don&#8217;t think they will go away at all as a matter of fact. </p>
<p>What I do disagree with is that users who search for &#8220;Orlando pizza&#8221; have less intent than someone who searches &#8220;pizza&#8221;.  Just because the user didn&#8217;t enter a geo modifier doesn&#8217;t mean they wouldn&#8217;t like local results. We can&#8217;t expect users to adapt to the search engine the search engine (and our marketing) must adapt to them. </p>
<p>I would prefer if Google would just start using browser awareness and simply including the Onebox and keeping the natural results as a default for search terms like &#8220;pizza&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Spickler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Spickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I'm really impressed with your article. It's definitely gotten a few of us around our office talking about this topic. But I've come up with a criticism here... 

When someone types in the term "pizza" (to use your example above), they're more than likely searching with less intent than someone who would type in, "orlando pizza," or even further, "32801 pizza". Geo-modifiers show real intent on a product or service. Whereas searches without geo-modifiers can really have any intent and any reason.

To me, that says that "the downfall of geo modifiers" can't go away so easily. Sure, as technologies increase, browser location awareness increases, etc., people will start to catch on to these innovations in search. However, essentially, this is just trying to teach people a new way to search, which could take quite some time.

Just my two cents</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really impressed with your article. It&#8217;s definitely gotten a few of us around our office talking about this topic. But I&#8217;ve come up with a criticism here&#8230; </p>
<p>When someone types in the term &#8220;pizza&#8221; (to use your example above), they&#8217;re more than likely searching with less intent than someone who would type in, &#8220;orlando pizza,&#8221; or even further, &#8220;32801 pizza&#8221;. Geo-modifiers show real intent on a product or service. Whereas searches without geo-modifiers can really have any intent and any reason.</p>
<p>To me, that says that &#8220;the downfall of geo modifiers&#8221; can&#8217;t go away so easily. Sure, as technologies increase, browser location awareness increases, etc., people will start to catch on to these innovations in search. However, essentially, this is just trying to teach people a new way to search, which could take quite some time.</p>
<p>Just my two cents</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Chenard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Chenard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, any chance the date you pinpointed was Nov 10, 2008, or a day before/after?  I wonder if this same change is related to rise I've also seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, any chance the date you pinpointed was Nov 10, 2008, or a day before/after?  I wonder if this same change is related to rise I&#8217;ve also seen.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mihm</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mihm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, this is great insight.  Your empirical research into the value of the 10-pack is the most (and seemingly only) reliable data I've seen.  This certainly underscores something Danny Sullivan said at the SEOmoz seminar last year -- he hypothesizes that eventually Local results will be displayed by default &#38; organic will disappear entirely for certain searches...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, this is great insight.  Your empirical research into the value of the 10-pack is the most (and seemingly only) reliable data I&#8217;ve seen.  This certainly underscores something Danny Sullivan said at the SEOmoz seminar last year &#8212; he hypothesizes that eventually Local results will be displayed by default &amp; organic will disappear entirely for certain searches&#8230;</p>
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